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This article was nominated for merging with Transgender on 2015-07-08. The result of the discussion was the articles were not merged.

This article was nominated for merging with Transgender on 2018-01-19. The result of the discussion was the articles were not merged.

On 2 May 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Transsexual to Transsexuality. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Section sizes Section size for Transsexual (30 sections) Section name Byte count Section total (Top) 6,491 6,491 Terminology 1,681 28,160 Origins 4,188 4,188 Relationship to transgender 8,945 8,945 Terminological variance 5,879 5,879 Sexual orientation 5,110 5,110 Surgical status 2,357 2,357 Historical understanding 1,352 3,431 20th century medical understanding 2,079 2,079 Medical diagnosis 6,851 6,851 Causes, studies, and theories 37 1,181 Causes 50 50 Focus on trans women over trans men 1,094 1,094 Medical assistance 308 14,868 Hormone replacement therapy 321 321 Sex reassignment therapy 1,304 8,003 Gender roles and transitioning 6,699 6,699 Psychological treatment 3,450 3,450 Regrets and detransitions 2,786 2,786 Prevalence 9,460 9,460 Society and culture 773 19,208 Legal and social aspects 8,499 12,714 Employment issues 4,215 4,215 Stealth 1,330 1,330 In the media 1,534 1,534 In pageantry 2,857 2,857 See also 236 236 References 30 30 Bibliography 2,868 2,868 External links 1,396 1,396 Total 94,180 94,180

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A transsexual person is someone who experiences a gender identity that is inconsistent with their assigned sex, and desires to permanently transition to the sex or gender with which they identify, usually seeking medical assistance (including gender affirming therapies, such as hormone replacement therapy and gender affirming surgery) to help them align their body with their identified sex or gender.

This statement is false. You cannot transition to a different sex. Your sex is determined by your chromosomes and cannot be changed with any type of therapy or surgery. 78.149.42.11 (talk) 16:11, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 16:31, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This statement appears to be opinionated and is not suited for an edit request, and would especially go against WP:NPOV, even if you did state it in an X to Y format. Mseingth2133444 (Did I mess up? Let me know here) 00:18, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A few months ago when I was reading this article there was a section called "biological factors" that doesn't seem to exist anymore, I would like to know if there was any reason for that. I feel like the article is less detailed and has more inaccuracies overall, although I only remember this example clearly 2804:1CD8:C241:2E0:413B:1E26:AC69:196A (talk) 05:48, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the second statement of the third paragraph in the blurb ("Transsexual people were once classified as mentally ill and subject to extensive gatekeeping by the medical establishment, and remain so in much of the developing world") should probably be changed to "remain so in much of the world", as this is a irrelevant distinction that is seriously unnecessary, many "developing" nations such as Brazil, Colombia and Argentina offer significantly more protection and rights to their trans citizens compared to "developed" countries such as Poland, China and most of the USA. The current phrasing feels biased and needlessly political, in an already controversial topic. (Besides offering no sources to this specific point.) 8pregos (talk) 14:03, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The WPATH.org^[1] site contains a link to the Standards of Care version 8 ^[2], where Chapter 2: Global Applicability, starting on page S15, it appears (17 using the page counter on the document itself) covers changes in health care views around the world, and does include some small focus on "developing" parts of the world. While I do show one source backing up the statement, on its face I agree with changing this part of the paragraph some. I don't think the phrase is biased or political, but it does appear to be undue. King keudo (talk) 15:10, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The citations at the end of the first sentence of the second paragraph should be linked to their matching references Thehumanbean2 (talk) 20:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there reason to think that those page numbers aren't all from Valentine? I haven't found a full copy, but I found page 8, and it has "While they and others are gathered here under the category 'transgender,' they have different attitudes toward it. Cherry likes the term, though she uses it interchangeably with 'transexual,' while Cindy dismisses it as 'tranny crap.'" -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 20:49, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My hunch was right. "Trans***ual" is from the 20th-century. It dehumanizes and objectifies people into sex things. I researched this. It isn't used by civil rights groups like Human Rights Campaign. The APA style tells people that it is outdated. GLAAD says it is old and don't use it. You couldn't tout yourself to get elected dogcatcher. Arbeiten8 (talk) 21:48, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trans editor here. You are misstating your own cited sources, which say that while the term transsexual is largely outdated, some trans people do still identify with it. Regardless, please recognize that any significant changes to an article on a highly controversial topic such as this one need to have consensus. Funcrunch (talk) 22:00, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]