Talk:Electric energy consumption

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I note in section 'Electricity Consumption and GDP' that the electricity is measured in GWhr/yr for the table labelled "Electricity Consumption (2008) and GDP (PPP) (2009)", yet for the next table ("Electricity Consumption 2008 (TWh)", the measure is in TWh. The values for the first table are an order of magnitude out, so I have changed the unit of measure to MWhr/yr, which should make things accurate.

Hunterd is back! 23:05, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Without the above change, the global electricity use for 2008 would read '20,279TW'. Which is waaaaaayyyyyy too much. ;) Hunterd is back! 23:07, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Just read the overview and see that it cites figures around 20,000TW. So I reverted my previous edit as I am now uncertain. Everything I've read up until today said global electricity use was around 13TWh/yr, so this new figure is way more than what I previously understood consumption to be. I will hunt down academic literature and try to verify this at some point before the end of the year. Hunterd is back! 23:20, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The information in overview is not totally consistent anymore. The mentioned 17% is far too low for the total losses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LvD (talk • contribs) 10:20, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• The overview section is still hugely inconsistent. Can't make heads or tails of what is being said therein. Will add it to my to-do list to fix it up, but I'm hectic with work at the moment, so if someone wants to do this before I get to it, that's probably a good idea. Hunterd is back! 23:16, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Since table used data from two different source IEA (2008) and Factbook 2009, Electricity per capita and GDP per kWh are not correct. I found a IEA PDF file to correct this discrepancy. I will update the table ASAP. (hopefully within a couple of days) --Masaqui (talk) 16:09, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
After reviewing IEA/OECD publication, I found their data of population and GDP (PPP)to be far apart from other published data from IMF, World Bank and CIA. Therefore I decide not editing existing table. I'll leave table as is. --Masaqui (talk) 03:33, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The "rank" in this table is a mess, totally wrong. Japan, Russia, India should be 3rd to 5th, not in the 20s. And Consumption per head is not yet given as values in the table, just mentioned in the text section below. --82.113.113.82 (talk) 14:17, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Per capita is there, just completely to the right, in the last column. But it's true the order is totally messed up... how did that happen? --TheAnarcat (talk) 13:22, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't see any reason for the table order, so I sorted it by rank. GA-RT-22 (talk) 00:15, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have updated most of the sections in the article (please feel free to review) except the last one related to future electricity scenarios. The opening paragraph about energy efficiency seems to be generally supported by the IEA (www.iea.org/reports/world-energy-outlook-2021). The last two paragraphs appear to be based on publications from nearly a decade ago. If anyone is familiar with the IEA's new World Energy Outlook (2021) and understands the scenarios well enough to update this section, that would be great. JetGreen40 (talk) 04:32, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Does it really tell us anything useful? Chidgk1 (talk) 15:15, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Chidgk1: You mean the section discussed in the next comment? --Ita140188 (talk) 03:47, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I mean that one rightmost column GDP (PPP)/kWh Chidgk1 (talk) 10:42, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This article is supposed to be about consumption not generation. Nowadays many countries trade electricity so consumption will be different from generation Chidgk1 (talk) 15:18, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I propose to move it to List of countries by energy intensity under a subsection specific to electricity (a form of energy) --Ita140188 (talk) 03:43, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

yes that would be a better place if you think it is useful Chidgk1 (talk) 10:43, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps someone could add why to the article. Presumably because they have lots of geothermal but no connecting cable so consume it in data centers and aluminium smelters? Chidgk1 (talk) 15:33, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Iceland has access to cheap and clean electricity (mostly from geothermal) so there are several energy intensive industries such as aluminium smelting. Given the population of Iceland, even one medium-sized aluminium smelter can completely change the energy consumption per capita. --Ita140188 (talk) 03:44, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Seems overly complex to me - why not “Electricity use”? Chidgk1 (talk) 15:20, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

— In English, the word use suggests how electricity is used, which is not what this article is about.

— I think the present title is a good counterpoint to Electricity generation, with generation and consumption being opposites.

— I'd acquiesce in a new title Electricity consumption (now a redirect), though I would not actively suggest this change, which doesn't accomplish much. —RCraig09 (talk)

Well the article does say what share is used in what sectors. And if it said a bit more about how it is used that would also be interesting I think. For example the miniscule share now used for electrolysis of water to hydrogen might increase year by year. Chidgk1 (talk) 05:54, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Almost all of the article is about how much electricity is consumed, and by which countries. Sectors are shown in only one table—and then only in the context of which countries. It's precisely because hydrolysis occupies a minuscule fraction, and only "might" increase, that it's not encyclopedic to include: it doesn't compare to countries or sectors and certainly doesn't warrant renaming the entire article. —RCraig09 (talk) 06:22, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]