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Section sizes Section size for Vietnam War (69 sections) Section name Byte count Section total (Top) 40,513 40,513 Names 3,398 3,398 Background 865 10,732 Japanese occupation of Indochina 3,683 3,683 First Indochina War 3,668 6,184 Battle of Dien Bien Phu 2,516 2,516 Transition period 14,924 14,924 Diệm era, 1954–1963 81 8,800 Rule 2,405 2,405 Insurgency in the South, 1954–1960 3,939 6,314 North Vietnamese involvement 2,375 2,375 Kennedy's escalation, 1961–1963 6,632 15,789 Ousting and assassination of Ngô Đình Diệm 9,157 9,157 Gulf of Tonkin and Johnson's escalation, 1963–1969 3,540 23,259 Gulf of Tonkin incident 4,099 4,099 Bombing of Laos 1,812 1,812 The 1964 offensive 2,779 2,779 American ground war 11,029 11,029 Tet Offensive and its aftermath 12,675 12,675 Vietnamization, 1969–1972 33 23,560 Nuclear threats and diplomacy 2,453 2,453 Hanoi's war strategy 1,806 1,806 U.S. domestic controversies 1,980 1,980 Collapsing U.S. morale 5,689 5,689 ARVN taking the lead and U.S. ground force withdrawal 3,154 3,154 Cambodia 3,779 3,779 Laos 1,289 1,289 Easter Offensive and Paris Peace Accords, 1972 3,377 3,377 U.S. exit and final campaigns, 1973–1975 6,089 15,005 Campaign 275 2,028 2,028 Final North Vietnamese offensive 2,839 2,839 Fall of Saigon 4,049 4,049 Opposition to U.S. involvement 3,951 3,951 Involvement of other countries 92 6,205 Pro-Hanoi 16 5,726 People's Republic of China 1,994 1,994 Soviet Union 3,716 3,716 Pro-Saigon 387 387 United Front for the Liberation of Oppressed Races 1,607 1,607 War crimes 722 15,228 South Vietnamese, Korean and American 10,841 10,841 North Vietnamese and Viet Cong 3,665 3,665 Women 6,025 6,025 Black servicemen 2,164 2,164 Weapons 1,214 1,214 Extent of U.S. bombings 2,061 2,061 Casualties 8,497 8,497 Aftermath 14 47,756 In Southeast Asia 25 15,550 In Vietnam 8,432 8,432 Laos and Cambodia 3,257 3,257 Unexploded ordnance 2,054 2,054 Refugee crisis 1,782 1,782 In the United States 5,390 14,067 Financial cost 2,239 2,239 Impact on the U.S. military 6,438 6,438 Effects of U.S. chemical defoliation 10,207 10,207 In popular culture 2,902 4,952 Myths 2,050 2,050 Commemoration 2,966 2,966 See also 129 129 Annotations 39 39 References 437 27,386 Citations 31 31 Works cited 4,261 4,261 Main sources 4,454 4,454 Additional sources 16,923 16,923 Historiography 1,280 1,280 External links 4,940 4,940 Total 295,857 295,857

Do we need a FAQ with

Q was there any British involvement in Vietnam

A No, and any such question will be deleted unless backed with a source?

Yes or no? Slatersteven (talk) 15:17, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The most important British involvement was that the Americans listened pretty carefully when Sir Robert Thompson gave them advice about what to do in Vietnam. Ed Moise (talk) 15:56, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As thuis block evasion while not often it is wasting a lot less time than just deleting these silly season questions. Slatersteven (talk) 15:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Did a quick search of archives and in the first 20 hits for British I picked out one that related to British involvement? Also, I don't recall seeing it before as an issue. So, probably not. Cinderella157 (talk) 23:02, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Remove unsubstantiated claims in casualties or cite sources. Kennedy was elected President in 1960. Kennedy assumed the office of the Presidency in 1961. Any reference to the Kennedy Presidency with dates prior to 1961 took place under the Eisenhower Presidency. Your introductory paragraph(s) need to be changed to reflect the dates and/or the Presidency. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.203.216.141 (talk) 19:11, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

{{}} 64.189.18.53 (talk) 06:17, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

what unsubstantiated claims? Mztourist (talk) 07:02, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Same IP with the Khemer/Kumar requests above. Intothatdarkness 11:51, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 16:50, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The men killed and wounded during the Mayaguez incident are listed as Vietnam war causality's according to military government records. The deaths of these men are listed on the Vietnam memorial. Remove the phony date you have of April 30,1975 as the end of the Vietnam war as it is incorrect in every way. That is just the day they turned the cameras off in Sagon. 2600:1015:A004:F190:7920:2CE8:4767:E02A (talk) 15:06, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See talk page archive as to why we have the date we have, its based on what wprs say. Slatersteven (talk) 15:13, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Repeat of this. (Hohum ^@) 15:59, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We rely on the consensus of reliable sources. Cinderella157 (talk) 23:58, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you think the war ended on April 30, 1975 you rely on pure stupidity.  2600:1015:A004:F190:1FEB:5B45:A6C3:7B78 (talk) 05:09, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you contact the RS we used and get them to change it. Slatersteven (talk) 09:44, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you contact the families whose sons died in the Mayaguez Incident and tell them the wiki decided April 30, 1975 is the end of the Vietnam war.  While the US government says they are Vietnam veterans killed in action during the Vietnam war. so obviously according to wiki their names should be removed from the Vietnam memorial and all the Vietnam awards they received should be returned.  2600:1015:A004:F190:F07C:8D8D:B48A:66C8 (talk) 16:36, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Mayaguez incident was a fight between US and Cambodian forces, in Cambodia, after the fighting in Vietnam had ended. It had nothing to do with Vietnam. Ed Moise (talk) 15:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

US forces fought in Cambodia all the time during the Vietnam war. Are you now saying that no US military was ever in Cambodia and the fight in Cambodia on May 15 ,1975 was the first time? 2600:1015:A025:FEDC:EB84:BCDD:711F:645A (talk) 03:14, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No I am not saying those things.

"All the time" is a slight exaggeration. US forces fought occasionally in Cambodia, not very often, up to 1969. They were fighting Vietnamese forces, and this was definitely part of the Vietnam War.

US forces (usually the US Air Force) fought a lot in Cambodia from 1969 to 1973. For most of this time the US operations were directed mostly against Vietnamese forces. Even in 1973, when US operations were directed mostly against Cambodian forces, they were directed against Vietnamese to a significant extent. This was definitely part of the Vietnam War.

Then there was a period of almost two years, from August 1973 to May 1975, when US forces were not fighting in Cambodia.

Then in May 1975, after the war in Vietnam had ended, US forces fought Cambodian forces in Cambodia. This had nothing to do with Vietnam, and I don't regard it as part of the Vietnam War. Ed Moise (talk) 22:04, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

K6ka https://en.Wik.ipedia.Pro.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3A2600%3A1015%3AA026%3A2AD9%3A16AA%3A2EA4%3AF206%3A6A7E Cinderella157 (talk) 09:41, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your Lies about the US not being in Cambodia prior to May 15, 1975, during the Vietnam are easily disproved as the Cambodian Campain happened April 29 to July 22 of 1970. It was a direct action of and during the Vietnam war as was the Mayaguez Incident. 2600:1015:A000:8DA6:CD08:67A2:37AD:CBF8 (talk) 05:35, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do not recall anyone saying that, all that said was this incident was long after the US had left the Vietnam war. Slatersteven (talk) 09:42, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is not what the US government says. The US government says it was a Vietnam war action and people killed during the battle are on the Vietnam war memorial. 2600:1015:A000:8DA6:CD08:67A2:37AD:CBF8 (talk) 16:05, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Try locating and posting RS to support your claim. Intothatdarkness 17:29, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

read the names on the Vietnam memorial thats all the RS you need. 2600:1015:A000:8DA6:475F:181C:E62B:DDE (talk) 16:26, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Other sources disagree. Slatersteven (talk) 16:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That this marked the official end of the war, note it has to say something like" the Vietnam war ended on ...". Slatersteven (talk) 11:54, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Can you added in the belligerents that the Kingdom of Sweden supported North Vietnam? 42.2.152.193 (talk) 12:08, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not without the source you did not provide. Slatersteven (talk) 12:09, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because the article states that this was officially a war between North and South Vietnam, I think we should change the sentence "This made it a proxy war between the US and the Soviet Union" to "This made it both a Vietnamese civil war and a proxy war between the US and the Soviet Union". Akysky (talk) 01:59, 28 October 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:47, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In Vietnam, we have always been propagated by the government that this was the war of the Vietnamese people against the invading American imperialists, not a proxy war and not a civil war. But yes, based on this article, the sentence can be changed like that, so I agree with you. 101.99.6.247 (talk) 05:10, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I support Akysky's proposed change. Mztourist (talk) 05:56, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, can you fix? Akysky (talk) 08:26, 28 October 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:47, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am Vietnamese and I do not believe in what the current Vietnamese government propagates about the war. 222.252.20.54 (talk) 05:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]